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Embryo bill: government confident


The government is confident it can push through controversial legislation allowing research into hybrid human-animal embryos.



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Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on embryo research, according to the health secretary Alan Johnson. He said he was confident and accommodation could be reached with Catholic MPs. Although he was convinced the Commons would still pass the bill. There has been mounting pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation, which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryos, Keme Nzerem reports.

 

Talking down the reported Cabinet rift over human animal embryos, the government today said it wouldn’t make MPs opposed to the Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill supports it. This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote, but this being Easter Sunday another leading Catholic added his voice to the clamour.

 

“Well, there are some aspects of this bill, in which I believe there ought to be, a free vote, and because Catholics and others will want to vote according to their conscience, so I don't think it should be subject to the party whip.

 

The Health Secretary was today summarily dispatched to set the record straight. “The real issue”, he says “is not religious morality, or even party leadership, but about keeping Britain at the forefront of finding cures for diseases like Parkinson's and diabetes.

So the bottomline is if only these people understood the science behind this and there would be no wrong.

 

“Oh I don’t think there is any doubt. But if people understand the complex issues here, they’ll support the bill. We’ve been 3 years discussing this. We had a public consultation, pre-legislative scrutiny, a joint committee of both Houses. There’s never been a bill that’s been scrutinized so much and I don’t think there’s any doubt that this would have enjoyed the majority’s support. The issue for those people who do have very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we will respect them.”

 

“Fundamentally, this is a question of whether you think that a microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a grown human being with a serious disease.”

 

And the number of Labour MPs who are prepared to defy their whips and vote no is ought to be only in the teens. It’s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67.

 

Now even if the goverments allow the free vote, it’s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account Liberal Demo and Tory supports of over around 100, then you'll look at the Human Fertilization and Embryology Bill passing easily. A hundred and fifty votes or so. So why you may well ask, all the fuss? Well, one Labour Cabinet member told me today, it’s all about control, adding---it’s a very necessary part-off control.

 

Why? Because creating guidelines for these controversial human-animal embryos,this meant to be flagship legislation in this parliament. But the goverment is worried, finding that control of both the debate...

 

Abstention is a formal act of not voting either for or against a proposal.

A whip is a notice which tells the members of a political party in parliament that it is important for them to vote in a particular way on an important issue

In Britain, a Tory politician or voter is a member of or votes for the Conservative Party.

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The health secretary was today ///this best to say the record straight,the real issue he says is not really just morality,or even party leadership,but about keeping freedom and for-front of finding cures or diseases like Parkinsons and Diabetes.

 

To the bottom line is if only these people understood the science behind this that they will be around.

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Fundamentally,this is a question of whether you think that microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a growing human being with a serious disease.

 

And the number of /// all prepared to /// and vote /// ought to be only in the teens,it`s hardly enough to /// the goverment working majority of 67.

 

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Why because creating guidelines for this controversial of human-anmial embryos is meant to be flightship legislation this parliament,but the goverment is worried,finding that control of both debate...

 

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Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on the embryo research ,according to the health secretary Allen Johnson. He said he was confident and accommodation could be reached with Catholic.Although he was convinced that comments would still pass the bill,that has been mountain pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation,which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryoes,Kemy Zone reports.

 

 

 

Talking down the reported cabinet reacted over human animal embryos,the goverment said it wouldn`t make MPs opposed to the human fertilization.An embryology bill supports it.This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote,but this has been eased in sunday when another leading catholic adding his voice to the clamour.

 

 

 

“Some has speaked of this bill,which has it ought to be,a free vote,and because Catholics and others would want to vote according to their conscience,such a ticket shouldn`t be subject to the party`s web.

The Health Secretary was today surrounding this WHAT’S IN IT to say the record straight. “The real issue”, he said “is not religious morality,or even party leadership,but about keeping Britian at the forth front of finding cures with diseases like Parkinsons and diabetes.

 

 

 

So the bottom line is only these people understand the science behind this that there would be no doubt

“Oh I think there is any doubt. But if people understand the complex issues here,they’ll support the bill. We’ve been, 3 years,discussing this. We have a public consultation, prelegistive scrutiny, a joint committee of both houses member.  There have never been a bill that has been scrutinized so much and I don`t think there’s any doubt that this would have/enjoy majority’s support.The issue for those people who do have very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we well respect them.”

 

 

 

“Fundamentally,this is a question of whether you think that microscopic early human-embryo has the same right as a grown human being with a serious disease.”

 

 

 

And a number of Labour MPs who are prepared to defy the vote WHAT’S IN IT thought to be it’s only in the team. It`s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67.

 

 

 

Now even if the goverment are allowed to the free vote,it`s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account  supports of over around 100 then you look at the human fertilization. Embryology bill passing easily. A hundred and fifty votes or so.So why you may well ask all the facts. Well,one Labour carbinet member told me today,it`s all about control,adding it`s a very neccessary part-off,control.

 

 

 

 

Why? Because creating guidelines with this controversial human-animal embryos, there is meant to be flexible legislation in this parliament. But goverment is worried,finding that control of both debate...

 

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Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on the embryo research, according to the health secretary Allen Johnson. He said he was confident and accommodation could be reached with Catholic MPs. Although he was convinced that comments would still pass the bill,that has been mountain pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation,which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryoes,Kemy Zone reports.

 

Talking down the reported cabinet reacted over human animal embryos,the goverment said it wouldn`t make MPs opposed to the human fertilization.An embryology bill supports it.This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote,but this has been eased in sunday when another leading catholic added his voice to the clamour.

 

“Some has speaked of this bill,which has it ought to be,a free vote,and because Catholics and others would want to vote according to their conscience,so I don't figure it should be subject to the party`s web.

The Health Secretary was today surrounding this WHAT’S IN IT to say the record straight. “The real issue”, he said “is not religious morality,or even party leadership,but about keeping Britian at the forefront of finding cures with diseases like Parkinsons and diabetes.

 

So the bottom line is if only these people understood the science behind this that there would be no doubt

“Oh I think there is any doubt. But if people understand the complex issues here,they’ll support the bill. We’ve been, 3 years,discussing this. We have a public consultation, prelegistive scrutiny, a joint committee of both houses member.  There have never been a bill that has been scrutinized so much and I don`t think there’s any doubt that this would have/enjoy majority’s support.The issue for those people who do have very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we will respect them.”

 

“Fundamentally,this is a question of whether you think that microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a grown human being with a serious disease.”

 

And a number of Labour MPs who are prepared to defy the vote WHAT’S IN IT thought to be it’s only in the team. It`s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67.

 

Now even if the goverment are allowed to the free vote,it`s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account  supports of over around 100 then you look at the human fertilization. Embryology bill passing easily. A hundred and fifty votes or so.So why you may well ask all the facts. Well,one Labour carbinet member told me today,it`s all about control,adding it`s a very neccessary part-off,control.

 

Why? Because creating guidelines with this controversial human-animal embryos, there is meant to be flexible legislation in this parliament. But the goverment is worried,finding that control of both debate...

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Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on / embryo research, according to the health secretary Allen Johnson. He said he was confident and accommodation could be reached with Catholic MPs. Although he was convinced that comments would still pass the bill. There has been mounting pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation,which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryoes,Kemy Zone reports.

 

Talking down the reported cabinet reacted over human animal embryos,the government today said it wouldn`t make MPs opposed to the human fertilization.An embryology bill supports it.This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote,but this has been eased in Sunday / another leading catholic added his voice to the clamour.

 

There are some aspects to this bill,which I gave, it ought to be,a free vote,and because Catholics and others would want to vote according to their conscience,so I don't figure it should be subject to the party`s web.

 

The Health Secretary was today surrounded this dispatch to set the record straight. “The real issue”, he said “is not religious morality,or even party leadership,but about keeping Britian at the forefront of finding cures with diseases like Parkinsons and diabetes.

 

So the bottom line is if only these people understood the science behind this that there would be no doubt

 

“Oh I think there is any doubt. But if people understand the complex issues here,they’ll support the bill. We’ve been, 3 years,discussing this. We have a public consultation, prelegistive scrutiny, a joint committee of both houses /.  There’s never been a bill that has been scrutinized so much and I don`t think there’s any doubt that this would have enjoyed majority’s support.The issue for those people who do have very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we will respect them.”

 

“Fundamentally,this is a question of whether you think that a microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a grown human being with a serious disease.”

 

And the number of Labour MPs who are prepared to defy the vote WHAT’S IN IT is thought to be only in the teams. It`s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67.

 

Now even if the governments are allowed to the free vote,it`s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account live ?supports of over around 100, well then you look at the human fertilization. Embryology bill passing easily. A hundred and fifty votes or so. So why you may well ask all the facts. Well,one Labour carbinet member told me today,it`s all about control,adding it`s a very neccessary part-off,control.

 

Why? Because creating guidelines for these controversial human-animal embryos, there is meant to be flexible legislation in this parliament. But the goverment is worried, finding that control of both the debate...

 

 

 

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Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on the embryo research, according to the health secretary Alan Johnson. He said he was confident and accommodation could be reached with Catholic MPs. Although he was convinced that Commons would still pass the bill. There has been mounting pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation, which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryos, Kemy Zone reports.

Talking down the reported Cabinet reacted over human animal embryos, the government today said it wouldn’t make MPs opposed to the human fertilization. An embryology bill supports it. This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote, but this has been eased in Sunday when another leading Catholic added his voice to the clamour.

Well, there are some aspects of this bill, in which I believe there ought to be, a free vote, and because Catholics and others will want to vote according to their conscience, and such a ticket should be submitted to the party’s web.

The Health Secretary was today surrounded this dispatch to set the record straight. “The real issue”, he said “is not religious morality, or even party leadership, but about keeping Britain at the forth front of finding cures for diseases like Parkinsons and diabetes.

So the bottom line is if only these people understood the science behind this that there would be no wrong.

“Oh I don’t think there is any doubt. But if people understand the complex issues here, they’ll support the bill. We’ve been (,) 3 years (,) discussing this. We have a public consultation, pre-legislative scrutiny, a joint committee of both Houses (member).  There’s never been a bill that’s been scrutinized so much and I don’t think there’s any doubt that this would have enjoyed the majority’s support. The issues for those people who do have very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we will respect them.”

“Fundamentally, this is a question of whether you think that a microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a grown human being with a serious disease.”

And the number of Labour MPs who are prepared to defy their whips and vote /// ought to be only in their teams. It’s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67.

Now even if the goverments are allowed to the free vote, it’s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account the damnatory supports of over around 100, well then you look at the human fertilization. Embryology bill passing easily. A hundred and fifty votes or so. So why you may well ask all the facts. Well, one Labour Cabinet member told me today, it’s all about control, adding it’s a very necessary part-off, control.

Why? Because creating guidelines for these controversial human-animal embryos, there is meant to be flexible legislation in this parliament. But the goverment is worried, finding that control of both the debate...

 

on viola8297 Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on the embryo research, according to the health secretary Alan Johnson. He said he was confident and accommodation could be reached with Catholic MPs. Although he was convinced that Commons would still pass the bill. There has been mounting pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation, which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryos, Kemy Zone reports. Talking down the reported Cabinet rift over human animal embryos, the government today said it wouldn’t make MPs opposed to the human fertilization. An embryology bill supports it. This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote, but this has been eased in Sunday when another leading Catholic added his voice to the clamour. “Well, there are some aspects of this bill, in which I believe there ought to be, a free vote, and because Catholics and others will want to vote according to their conscience, and such a ticket should not be subjected to the party’s web. The Health Secretary was today surrounded this dispatch to set the record straight. “The real issue”, he said “is not religious morality, or even party leadership, but about keeping Britain at the forefront of finding cures for diseases like Parkinsons and diabetes. So the bottom line is if only these people understood the science behind this that there would be no wrong. “Oh I don’t think there is any doubt(.) that if people understand the complex issues here, they’ll support the bill. We’ve been 3 years discussing this. We have a public consultation, pre-legislative scrutiny, a joint committee of both Houses. There’s never been a bill that’s been scrutinized so much and I don’t think there’s any doubt that this will enjoy the majority’s support. The issues for those people who do have a very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we will respect them.” “Fundamentally, this is a question of whether you think that a microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a grown human being with a serious disease.” And the number of Labour MPs who are prepared to defy their whips and vote notes used to be thought to be only in their teams. It’s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67. Now even if the goverments are allowed to the free vote, it’s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account the damnatory supports of over around 100, well then you look at the human fertilization(.)embryology bill passing easily(.) a hundred and fifty votes or so. So why you may well ask all the facts. Well, one Labour Cabinet member told me today, it’s all about control, adding it’s a very necessary part of(,) control. Why? Because creating guidelines for these controversial human-animal embryos, there is meant to be flexible legislation in this parliament. But the goverment is worried, finding that control of both the debate... [ 本帖最后由 let-me-fly 于 2008-3-26 11:42 编辑 ]
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Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on the embryo research, according to the health secretary Alan Johnson. He said he was confident an accommodation could be reached with Catholic MPs. Although he was convinced that the Commons would still pass the bill, there has been mounting pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation, which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryos, Kemy Zone reports.

 

Talking down the reported Cabinet reacted over human animal embryos, the government today said it wouldn’t make MPs opposed to the human fertilization. An embryology bill supports it. This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote, but this has been eased till Sunday when another leading Catholic added his voice to the clamour.

 

“There are some aspects of this bill, in which I believe there ought to be, a free vote, and because Catholics and others will want to vote according to their conscience, and so I don’t think it should not be subjected to the party rip.

 

The Health Secretary was today surrounded this fash to set the record straight. “The real issue”, he said “is not religious morality, or even party leadership, but about keeping Britain at the forefronts of finding cures for diseases like Parkinson’s and diabetes. So the bottom line is if only these people understood the science behind this that there would be no wow.

 

“Oh I don’t think there is any doubt that if people understand the complex issues here, they’ll support the bill. We’ve been 3 years discussing this. We’ve had a public consultation, pre-legislative scrutiny, a joint committee of both Houses. There’s never been a bill that’s been scrutinized so much and I don’t think there’s any doubt that this will enjoy a majority/ support. The issue/ for those people who do have a very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we will respect them.”

 

“Fundamentally, this is a question of whether you think that a microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a grown human being with a serious disease.”

 

And the number of Labour MPs who all prepare to defy their whips to vote notes is thought to be only in their teams. It’s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67.

 

Now even if the governments / allowed / the free vote, it’s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account the damnatory supports of over around 100, well then you look at the human fertilization and embryology bill passing easily, a hundred and fifty votes or so. So why? You may well ask all the facts. Well, one Labour Cabinet member told me today, it’s all about control, adding it’s a very necessary part of control. Why? Because creating guidelines for these controversial human-animal embryos / is meant to be flexible legislation in this parliament. But the government is worried, finding that control of both the debate

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Labour MPs may not have to vote against their conscience over the government’s controversial bill on the embryo research, according to the health secretary Alan Johnson. He said he was confident an accommodation could be reached with Catholic MPs. Although he was convinced that the Commons would still pass the bill, there has been mounting pressure for Labour MPs to be granted a free vote on the legislation, which would allow the creation of hybrid human-animal embryos, Kemy Zone reports. Talking down the reported Cabinet rift over human animal embryos, the government today said it wouldn’t make MPs opposed to the human fertilization. An embryology bill supports it. This compromise probably means allowing abstentions rather than a free vote, but this has been eased till Sunday when another leading Catholic added his voice to the clamour. “There are some aspects of this bill, in which I believe there ought to be, a free vote, and because Catholics and others will want to vote according to their conscience, and so I don’t think it should not be subjected to the party rip. The Health Secretary was today surrounded this fash to set the record straight. “The real issue”, he said “is not religious morality, or even party leadership, but about keeping Britain at the forefronts of finding cures for diseases like Parkinson’s and diabetes. So the bottomline is if only these people understood the science behind this that there would be no wrong . “Oh I don’t think there is any doubt that if people understand the complex issues here, they’ll support the bill. We’ve been 3 years discussing this. We’ve had a public consultation, pre-legislative scrutiny, a joint committee of both Houses. There’s never been a bill that’s been scrutinized so much and I don’t think there’s any doubt that this would have enjoyed a majority/ support. The issue/ for those people who do have a very deep conscience, or issues of conscience whether because they are faithful or because of other ethical or moral reasons, we have to respect and we will respect them.” “Fundamentally, this is a question of whether you think that a microscopic early human-embryo has the same rights as a grown human being with a serious disease.” And the number of Labour MPs who all prepare to defy the waive-hand vote known is thought to be only in the teens. It’s hardly enough to assail the government’s working majority of 67. Now even if the governments allow  the free vote, it’s unlikely that more than 40 or 50 Labour MPs would rebel. And when you take into account the damnatory supports of over around 100, well then you look at the human fertilization and embryology bill passing easily, a hundred and fifty votes or so. So why? You may well ask all the fuss . Well, one Labour Cabinet member told me today, it’s all about control, adding it’s a very necessary part of control. Why? Because creating guidelines for these controversial human-animal embryos is meant to be flagship legislation in this parliament. But the government is worried, finding that control of both the debate [ 本帖最后由 touchance 于 2008-3-30 07:44 编辑 ]
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