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作者: qingchengshan    时间: 2008-12-1 14:42     标题: 【整理】2008-12-02&12-04 亚洲经济前景猜想

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Changes in the Asian markets


CNN's Kaushal Patel talks to an economic expert about how long good news will last in the Asian economy.



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We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed's latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's eh, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

 

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where do commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of the heat taken out of that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat that's been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

 

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see, need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the market in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

 

Let’s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which other companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region,  you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are fewer analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks have pulled back from their, some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets have been de-rated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.

 

 

 

 

 

[ 本帖最后由 北星束 于 2008-12-5 21:55 编辑 ]
作者: bill2008    时间: 2008-12-1 17:52     标题: hw

We heard about the government helping out the Citygroup yesterday, today the US Federal Reserve announces they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, what else is going to be changing the market in the coming weeks?


Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently been annouced are kind of trying to get the morgage rice down, because although we've seen interest rates cut sinificantly over the last year or so, morgage rates stay stubbontly high, so the they face the latest action is aimed at trying to get the borrowing down for household. And as we get closed to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures are being taken by the Fed, in addition, I think what the analysts are looking for, what investor management are looking for, are more / stimulus and we problely to see some sorts of package announced in Europe. Um, today or later this week, we are expected to see um / stimulus in the US as well.


Another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and / obviously, not going to merge, where / stand right now?


Well, certainly commodities have fantastic run, and we see a lot of heal taking out at that market, partly as the result of the investors believing that the economy slow down, it's going to low demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerge yet again have been financial assets with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of heal have been taking out has been reaction to revalue the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting qulity and financial system.


And talking about forcast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%, and International Monetary Fund basiclly has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do /push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for the European, whoelse could it be?


Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which annouced to 17, 18% of  GDP, whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, takes time to transmit the money into project, into physical stimulus programme, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see /need to see a more coodinated effort, particularly in the US and with the Europe to try the stimulates demand, try to get that money into the market, in terms of surporting the consumers, particularly in the US, before we are gonna get the business confidence come back. And that's  really what investors look at now, they are looking through the next year's earnings really, at the / numbers, weak job data, prices CPI reducing, so you are looking at the propect of deflation, weaker / which is really not surport of growth as we look out / other nine and ten.


As concentrated on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, ah Goldminers, /  which other companies?


Well, there's plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US// as a result of strong cash flows, and this pretty much across the much /because in this financial downturn, there are a few analysts out there covering companies, because investment bank pull back from some of their core activities, so you gotta get down /data and understand what's going on, but there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basiclly / across the whole market, the markets have been / there are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in this /


作者: manyi827    时间: 2008-12-1 18:31

Homework

 

 We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday, today the US Federal Reserve announced that they're going to help infuse 800 billion dollars. What else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks?
 
 Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced aim at trying to get mortgage rates down because although we see interest rates cut significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates stay stubbornly high. So the Fed's latest action is aimed to trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's a, as we get closer to short-term interest rate getting to zero, you're gonna see more and more, I guess orthodox majors being taken by the Fed. In additional think, what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for are more fiscal stimulus, then we're probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, today or later this week. And we expect to see a fiscal stimulus in the US as well.
 
 And another big headline is the big merger, they've been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto obviously not going to merge. Where do commodities stand right now?
 
 Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we've seen a lot of heat taken out that market. Partly as a result of investors beliving the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of heat has been taken out, has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it also affecting liquidity in the financial system.
 
 And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plan than you said, you know, we might hear a wonderful // European. Who else could wake?
 
 Well, we've already seen a massive package in China which it mounts to sort of 17,18% of GDP, whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus and programs that remain to be saying. But we're gonna say it needs to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US with Europe to try to stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets, in terms of supporting the consumers particularly in the US, before we're gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now, they're looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. We drop dates on, you know, precise CPI reducing, so you're looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weak wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.
 
 As concentrate on the confidence, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, gold miners, //, which are the the companies?
 
 Well there are plenty of companies with strong cash flows that's particular in this region, you've got companies both here and Europe, and a selective in the US are very high yield, as a result of this strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sect. You gotta be pretty selective because in this financial downturn, there are fewer analysts out there covering companies because investment banks have pulled back from some of their core activities, so you've gotta get down and rescribe the day to understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment, it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market, the markets have been derated, there are opportunities there, but until confidence return, until we see some of these measures take hold, we're not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.
 


作者: cindy_nick    时间: 2008-12-1 21:56

On Bill2008

 

 

We've heard about the government helping out the Citygroup yesterday, today the US Federal Reserve announces they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, what else is going to be changing the market in the coming weeks?


Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently been annouced are kind of trying to get the morgage rice down, because although we've seen interest rates cut sinificantly over the last year or so, morgage rates stay stuburnly high, so the they face the latest action is aimed at trying to get the borrowing close down for household. And as we get closed to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures are being taken by the Fed, in addition, I think what the analysts are looking for, or what investor management are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we problely to see some sorts of package announced in Europe. Um, today or later this week, we are expected to see um Fiscal stimulus in the US as well.


Another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and / obviously, not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now?


Well, certainly commodities have fantastic run, and we see a lot of heat taking out at that market, partly as the result of the investors believing that the economy slow down, it's going to lower demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerge yet again have been financial assets with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of heat have been taking out has been reaction to revalue the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting equity and financial system.


And talking about forcast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%, and the International Monetary Fund basiclly has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do /push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for the European, whoelse could it be?


Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which annouced to 17, 18% of  GDP, whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, takes time to transmit the money into project, into fiscal stimulus programme, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see /need to see a more coodinated effort, particularly in the US and with the Europe to try stimulates demand, try to get that money into the market, in terms of surporting the consumers, particularly in the US, before we are gonna get the business confidence come back. And that's  really what investors look at now, they are looking through the next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers, weak job data, prices CPI reducing, so you are looking at the prospects of deflation, weaker / which is really not surport of growth as we look out into nine and ten.


As concentrated on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, ah Goldminers, /  which other companies?


Well, there's plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high as a result of strong cash flows, and this pretty much across the much /because in this financial downturn, there are a few analysts out there covering companies, because investment bank pull back from some of their core activities, so you gotta get down /data and understand what's going on, but there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basiclly one brush across the whole market, the markets have been / there are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.


作者: 860108tyy    时间: 2008-12-1 23:05

On cindy_nick

 

We've heard about the government helping out the Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, what else is going to be changing the market in the coming weeks?


Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently been announced are aimed at trying to get the mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cut significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates sustained stubbornly high, so the Fed’s  latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures / being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what / analysts are looking for, / what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we probably going to see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.


And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and
Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now?


Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of heat taken out at that market. Partly as a result of the investors’ believing that the economy slowdown it’s in a lower demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerge yet again is being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat have been taken out has been a reaction to deleverage the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting liquidity in the financial system.


And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically had said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do /push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for ? of the European, who else could we?


Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see /need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with the Europe to try stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of suporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's  really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.


Let’s
concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, which other companies?


Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of this strong cash flows, and this pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets are being derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.


作者: Chloé    时间: 2008-12-2 10:37     标题: on 860108tyy

We've heard about the government helping out / Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. )what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks?


Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently / announced are aimed at trying to get / mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cut significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates sustained stubbornly high, so the Fed’s  latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures / being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what / analysts are looking for, / what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna / see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.


And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now?


Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of heat taken out at that market. Partly as a result of / investors’ believing that the economy slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again is being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of this heat have been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage of the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting liquidity in the financial system.


And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically had said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do /push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for , uh , out  of the European, (Yes.)who else could we?


Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, there are remains to be seen, but we are gonna see /need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with / Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of suporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's  really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.(=year 2009 adn year 2010)


Let’s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well,(谁来听一下? 这个男的附和了一句什么? Eh, date?) ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes.)which other companies?


Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of this strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets are being derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.

 

rescrub the data 是什么意思阿?谢谢!



作者: CM Lee    时间: 2008-12-2 16:48     标题: on Chloé

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. )what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks?


Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates stays stubbornly high, so the Fed’s  latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.


And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now?


Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of heat taken out at that market. Partly as a result of investors’ believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again is being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat has been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting liquidity in the financial system.


And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically had said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for , uh , out  of the European, (Yes.)who else could we?


Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, there / remains to be seen, but we are gonna see need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's  really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.


Let’s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well,(
谁来听一下? 这个男的附和了一句什么? Eh, date? 应该是一家公司名) ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes.)which other companies?


Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of this strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets are being derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.

 

rescrub the data 是什么意思阿?谢谢!

[ 本帖最后由 skyRo 于 2008-12-8 11:21 编辑 ]
作者: 抑郁之灵    时间: 2008-12-2 21:11     标题: On CM Lee

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. )what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks?


Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed’s  latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's a, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.


And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now?


Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of heat taken out at that market. Partly as a result of investors’ believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again is being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat has been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting liquidity in the financial system.


And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for , uh , out  of the European, (Yes.)who else could we?


Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, there / remains to be seen, but we are gonna see need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's  really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.


Let’s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well,(
谁来听一下? 这个男的附和了一句什么? Eh, date? 应该是一家公司名)Indeed.(感觉上不是公司名,是表示肯定的回答,听着是这个词) ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes.)which other companies?


Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, and particularly in this region, you've got companies both here and Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of these strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets are being derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.

 

rescrub the data 是什么意思阿?谢谢!

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So,I guess the meaning should be wipe out the data once again.


作者: ghance    时间: 2008-12-2 21:17     标题: on CM

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right.) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks?


Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cut significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates stay stubbornly high, so the Fed’s  latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in / US as well.


And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now?


Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of heat taken out at that market. Partly as a result of investors’ believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again is being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat has been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting liquidity in the financial system.


And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out  of the European, (Yes.) who else could we?


Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, there remains to be seen, but we are gonna say need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.


Let’s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well,(indeed) ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes.) which are the companies?


Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of this strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are a few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets are being derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.

 

 

 


作者: Sunshake    时间: 2008-12-2 22:20     标题: on ghance

达到整理贴的水平了~~~

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right.) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks?

Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cut significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates stay stubbornly high, so the Fed’s  latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now?

Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of heat taken out at that market. Partly as a result of investors’ believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again is being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat has been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes.) who else could we?

Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, there remains to be seen, but we are gonna say need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

Let’s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well,(indeed) ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes.) which are the companies?

Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are a few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets are being derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.


作者: 萧小噜    时间: 2008-12-3 09:30

on Sunshake(鸡蛋里挑根小骨头出来下)

 

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cut significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates stay stubbornly high, so the Fed s latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

 

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we ve seen a lot of heat taken out at that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat has been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but it's also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

 

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, there remains to be seen, but we are gonna say need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

 

Let s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which are the companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are / few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from some of their core activities, so you ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets are being derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see markets move up in a substantial way.

 

我觉得根据上下文,那里的意思是什么投资银行现在自顾不暇,所以不应该是a few,应该是few分析家在分析市场,那人才让我们要小心,要自己搜集数据再分析好。

[ 本帖最后由 萧小噜 于 2008-12-3 10:53 编辑 ]
作者: johnsonchen688    时间: 2008-12-3 11:59

on 萧小鲁

 

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cut significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed's latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's eh, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

 

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where the commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we ve seen a lot of the heat taken out / that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat that's been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

 

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see, need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the market/ in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

 

Let s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah Gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which are the companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, and you ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are / fewer analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks are pulled back from their, some of their core activities, so you ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets have been derated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.


作者: johnsonchen688    时间: 2008-12-3 12:04

有必要解释一下rescrub the data

 

Chloe 同志还专门去普特问吧提问了,这是我给的答案:

 

Data scrubbing, also called data cleansing, is the process of amending or removing data in a database that is incorrect, incomplete, improperly formatted, or duplicated.

当然,这是一个电脑词汇,一般用于银行、保险、通讯等等数据密集型的行业。有人翻译成数据清理、净化或者清洁。三个东西都一样。

数据清洁,翻译一下定义,是指改正或者删除数据库中不正确、不完整、格式错误,或者重复了的数据的过程,并不是把数据都擦除了,格式化(formatting)才是.

[ 本帖最后由 johnsonchen688 于 2008-12-3 12:05 编辑 ]
作者: 风有路过    时间: 2008-12-3 18:06     标题: 回复 2# 的帖子

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作者: 北星束    时间: 2008-12-4 14:09

on 主斑小破孩

 

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed's latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's eh, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

 

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where do commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of the heat taken out of that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat that's been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

 

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see, need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the market/ in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

 

Let s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which other companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, and you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are / fewer analysis out there covering companies, because the investment banks have pulled back from their, some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets have been de-rated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.

 

 


作者: yinjay    时间: 2008-12-4 16:02     标题: hw

We've heard about the government helping out Citygroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed's latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's eh, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

 

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where do commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of the heat taken out of that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat that's been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

 

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see, need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the market in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weak wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

 

Let s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which other companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, and you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are  fewer analysis out there covering companies, because the investment banks have pulled back from their, some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets have been de-rated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.

 

 

 


作者: Melissanie    时间: 2008-12-4 21:05

 

我刚刚进这个网页的时候有个链接,是链接到有关投资的网页,还可以模拟炒股,转账之类的,我忘了收藏,等我再打开的时候没有了,有谁有看到的话告诉我哦,发那个链接给我吧,谢谢


作者: Melissanie    时间: 2008-12-4 21:07

我刚刚进这个网页的时候有个链接,是链接到有关投资的网页,还可以模拟炒股,转账之类的,我忘了收藏,等我再打开的时候没有了,有谁有看到的话告诉我哦,发那个链接给我吧,谢谢


作者: yuwentuo_PT    时间: 2008-12-4 21:43     标题: HW

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed's latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's eh, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well. And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where do commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of the heat taken out of that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that the economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat that's been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting liquidity in the financial system. And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see, need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the market in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10. Let s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which other companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, and you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are fewer analysis out there covering companies, because the investment banks have pulled back from their, some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets have been de-rated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.
作者: emilyemi    时间: 2008-12-5 00:56     标题: Home Work

We heared about the government helping out city group yesterday. Today the US'd better reserve. They announced they are going to help assumed 800 milllion dollars. What else is going to be changing the market in the coming weeks.

We are certain the efforts have been recently announced and tried to get the mortgage rates down. Because we always see the interest rates cut significantly over the last year. Also mortgage rates states stubbornly high, so that fades latest reduction is trying to get borrowing cost down for household. And it's, as we get close to, short-term interest rates are getting to zero. You gonna see more and more, I guess also adopted measures being taken by the fate. In additional thing, we analyst are looking for, our investment managers are looking for more fiscal stimulus. We probably gonna see some sort of package annouced in Europe today or later this week. And we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

And another big headline is the big merger they've been talked about it for a month, BHP and Real ten toe, obviously not going to merge. Where are commodities going to stand right now?

Well certainly commodities had a fantastic  ground, and we see a lot of hit taken out of the market. Partly it is the result of the investors' believing that the economy slowdown is going to lower the demand for commodities. But also because commodities have really emerged yet a gain, a financial assist with a lot of speculation in that market. And a lot of hit has been taken out , has been a reaction to the de-average to the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting equity in the finantial system.

And talking about full cast. IMF is cutting its GDP for ASIA to 6%. And international monitor fund basically has said, you know, pushing more countries to do, push for economic stimulus plans. And you said, you know, we want here for one of the Europeans. Who else could we?

We already see the massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17 to 18 % of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money takes time to transmit that money into projects, into fiscal stimulus program. That remains to be seen. But we are going to need to say a more coordinated effort particularly in the US with Europe to try to stimulate the demand, try to get that money into the market in terms of supporting the consumer particularly in the US, before we gonna see business confidence come back. And that's what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year early really at the macro numbers, we job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing. So you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weak wage growth, which is really not supportive of growth as we look on into 09 or 10.

That concentrates on the confidence. You know, there are some companies they are doing well. Gold miners,*. Which other companies.

A plenty of companies with strong cash flow, particularly in this region, you got companies both here and Europe. And selects in the US are very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows. This pretty much across the most sectors, you gotta be selective, because in this financial downturn, there are many analysts out there covering companies because investment companies are pulled back from their some of the core activities. You gotta get down and rescrap the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities. But at that moment, it's basically you know one brush across the whole macket. The market is being derated. There are opportunities there. But untill confidence returns, untill we see some of these measures take hold, we aren't gonna say markets move up in an sub-essential way.


作者: anne_198    时间: 2008-12-5 11:51

hw

 

We've heard ahout the government helping out city group yestoday, today the US Federual Reserve announce that they are going to help infuse 8 hundred billion 8 dollors. What else is going to be charging the market in the coming weeks?

 

Well ,certainly the the efforts that have been must recently announced are ained at tring to get mortgage race down,because there we seem interest rates cuts significantly over the last year also.Mortgage rate have stayed stubbornly high,so the Fed’s latest action is aim trying to get borrowing cost down for households, and it is.. as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you ganna to see more and more, I guset …..being taken.by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for,are more fiscal stimulate and we probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe. And today or later this week, and we expect to see fiscal stimulate as well.

 

Well, another big heardline is the big Merger they have been talking about it for month are BHP and Rio Tentol obviously not going to merge. Where the commodity stand right now?

 

Well, certainly commordity had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of heat taken out that market. Partly a result of investors believeing that the economice slow down is ganna lower demand for commodity but also because commodity have really enmorge yet again as a finacial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of heat that’s been taken out, has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is no only affecting commodity but is also affecting liquidity financial system.

 

And taking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6 percent and the international monetary fund basically has said, you know, pushing more countries to do of course for economic stimulate’s plans, and your said, you know we migh hear one for uh, out of European, who else could we?

 

Well we have already seen a massive packages in China which is among to sort of 17 and 18 percent of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects into fiscal stimulus programs that remain to be seen, but we are gonna need to see a more coordinate effert that particulary in the US and with Europe to try to stimulate demand and trying to get that money into the market, in terms of supportting the consumer,particular in the US before we gonna to see business economic confidence come back, and that’s realy investor looking at now, they looking though new year earning really at the macro numbers,weak drop data,you know, prices CPI reducing, so you arelooking at prospects of deflation, you know, we weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out at 09 and 10.

 

Let’s concentrated on the confidence, you know,there are some companys that are doing well~ ah~ gold miners… Which other companys.

Well there a penty of companies are strong cash flows, particulary in this region,you got company in both here in Europe and selectively in US on very high yields,as result this strong cash flows, and it’s pretty much across most sectors, you have got to be pretty selective,because in this finacial downturn, there are fewer analysis out there, covering commpanies, because the invertment banks have pulled back from their, som of their core activities, so gotta get down and rescrub the data and understand what’s going on,but there are opportunity, but at that moment is basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. Market have been derated.There are opportunities there, but untill confidence return,untill we see some of these mesures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.

[ 本帖最后由 skyRo 于 2008-12-8 11:42 编辑 ]
作者: anne_198    时间: 2008-12-5 11:51

哦~是我的HW,忘了标记了~


作者: jjmm    时间: 2008-12-5 14:08     标题: on 整理

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed's latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's eh, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

 

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where do commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of the heat taken out of that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that / economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat that's been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

 

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see, need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

 

Let s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which other companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, / you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are a few/ analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks have pulled back from their, some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and really scrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets have been de-rated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way.

 

 

 

 


作者: ACMICPC    时间: 2008-12-5 18:47     标题: on jjmm

We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? Well, certainly the efforts that have been most recently announced are aimed at trying to get mortgage rates down. Because although we've seen interest rates cuts significantly over the last year or so, mortgage rates have stayed stubbornly high, so the Fed's latest action is aimed at trying to get borrowing cost down for households. And it's eh, as we get closer to short term interest rates getting to zero, you are gonna to see more and more, I guess, unorthodox measures being taken by the Fed. In addition, I think what analysts are looking for, what investment managers are looking for, are more fiscal stimulus and we are probably gonna see some sort of package announced in Europe, um, today or later this week and we expect to see fiscal stimulus in the US as well.

 

And another big headline is the big merger, they have been talking about it for months, BHP and Rio Tinto, obviously not going to merge, where do commodities stand right now? Well, certainly commodities had a fantastic run, and we’ve seen a lot of the heat taken out of that market. Partly as a result of investors believing that economic slowdown is gonna lower the demand for commodities, but also because commodities have really emerged yet again as being a financial asset with a lot of speculation in that market, and a lot of the heat that's been taken out has been a reaction to the deleverage in the financial system, which is not only affecting commodities but is also affecting liquidity in the financial system.

 

And talking about forecast, IMF is cutting its GDP for Asia to 6%. And the International Monetary Fund basically has said, you know, it's pushing more countries to do push for economic stimulus plans, and you said, you know we might hear one for, uh , out of the European, (Yes. ) who else could we? Well, we have already seen a massive package in China which amounts to sort of 17, 18% of GDP. Whether or not the mainland can actually spend that amount of money, it takes time to transmit the money into projects, into fiscal stimulus programs, that remains to be seen, but we are gonna see, need to see a more coordinated effort, particularly in the US and with Europe to try and stimulate demand, trying to get that money into the markets in terms of supporting the consumer, particularly in the US, before we are gonna see business confidence come back. And that's really what investors are looking at now. They are looking through next year's earnings really, at the macro numbers. Weak job data, you know, prices, CPI reducing, so you are looking at prospects of deflation, you know, weaker wage growth which is really not supportive of growth as we look out into 09 and 10.

 

Let s concentrate on the confidence, ah, you know, there are some companies that are doing well, (indeed) ah gold miners, pharmaceuticals, (Yes. ) which other companies? Well, there're plenty of companies with strong cash flows, particularly in this region, you’ve got companies both here in Europe and selectively in the US on very high yields as a result of the strong cash flows, and it's pretty much across most sectors. You’ve got to be pretty selective. Because in this financial downturn, there are a few analysts out there covering companies, because the investment banks have pulled back from there, some of their core activities, so you’ve gotta get down and really scrub the data and understand what's going on. But there are opportunities, but at the moment it's basically, you know, one brush across the whole market. The markets have been de-rated. There are opportunities there, but until confidence returns, until we see some of these measures take hold, we are not gonna see market move up in a substantial way


作者: 北星束    时间: 2008-12-5 21:48

原帖由 jjmm 于 2008-12-5 14:08 发表 We've heard about the government helping out Citigroup yesterday. Today the US Federal Reserve announced that they are going to help infuse 800 billion dollars, (Right. ) what else is going to be chan ...

 

 

MM那个market or markets t后面滴实在很难分,在BBC滴时候就很头痛这个了,这里偶听着还是没有s额...

analyst 是我错了,主版大人已经“教训”偶了

rescrub前面有讨论撒


作者: johnsonchen688    时间: 2008-12-5 21:53

原帖由 北星束 于 2008-12-5 21:48 发表     MM那个market or markets t后面滴实在很难分,在BBC滴时候就很头痛这个了,这里偶听着还是没有s额... analyst 是我错了,主版大人已经“教训”偶了 rescrub前面有讨论撒

 

 晕,就是大家讨论一些疑点嘛~  北星斑斑很尽职很负责,是普特的好同志,同志们辛苦啦~


作者: 北星束    时间: 2008-12-5 22:38

原帖由 johnsonchen688 于 2008-12-5 21:53 发表    晕,就是大家讨论一些疑点嘛~  北星斑斑很尽职很负责,是普特的好同志,同志们辛苦啦~

 

讨论你可以跟贴嘛,何必pm,偶脸皮很厚滴

 

好桐子? 呵呵,偶只是看不下去,再加上某人滴"举报"才出来滴。。。

到了MT了,就不是看不下去而是受不了了所以能做滴都做了。。。


作者: jjmm    时间: 2008-12-5 23:45

原帖由 北星束 于 2008-12-5 21:48 发表     MM那个market or markets t后面滴实在很难分,在BBC滴时候就很头痛这个了,这里偶听着还是没有s额... analyst 是我错了,主版大人已经“教训”偶了 rescrub前面有讨论撒

 

嘿嘿,添乱来了.

markets是挺难分的,咱们就不争了哈.不过连标题都是markets, 额,....

analyst也没什么大问题.

那个rescrub, 我看了前面的讨论,似乎最详细的就是johnson的解释,他也都是解释data scrubbing嘛,这个rescrub当然是可以滴,不过偶还是坚持听到的really scrub. scrub本身就有整理,翻查数据的意思撒...

 

 


作者: fingshang    时间: 2008-12-5 23:55

  homework

 

 

Government helping the citigroup yesterday theday the us federal reserve announced that they are going to help 800 billion dollars. What else is going to be changing the markets in the coming weeks? certainly the efforts try to get try to get mortgage price down because although we see interest price cuts significantly over the last year or so mortgage price stubly high so the feed action to get borrowing cost down for households and as we get closer to … interest rights get into zero you are going to see more and more …. by in addition I think inverster managers are looking for in Europe today or later this week and we expect to see in the us as well. and another big head line is biging mger they have been talking about it for month BHP and reatento obviously not going to merge. where do commodity stand right now? certainly commodity have a fantastic wrong. we see a lot on that market investers believe that the economy slow down. the demand for commodities. but also because commodities really emerge to be a financial assets. lot in that market to the delivery of the financial system is not only affecting commodities but also effect the liquidity and the financial system. and talking about forecasting, IMF is cutting it’s GDP for Asia to 6 percent and the international monetary found basically had said pushing more countries who else could we? a massive package in china which 17-18% of the GDP whether or not can the mainland spend that amount of money to trans the money into project into fisical stimulous program still remains to be seen. but we see a more coordinative us with Europe try to stiumulate the demand try to get that money into the market in terms to support the consumer particularly in the us before we see business confidence come back. that what investors really looking at now. they look through next year prices CPI reducing so you looking at prospect deflation 09 and 10 let’s consentrate on the confidence you know there are some companies that are doing well goldminers which are other companies. with strong cash flows. you got both companies here and Europe very high yields as a result of this strong cash flows you got to be very selective because in this financial downturn there are some one brush across the whole market there are opportunities their untile confidence return until some of these measures take the markets move up in a substantial way.

[ 本帖最后由 fingshang 于 2008-12-5 23:58 编辑 ]
作者: 北星束    时间: 2008-12-6 12:32

又仔细听了下,可不可能是you've got to get down, and you scrub the data and understand what is going on...

 

但是现在看这句话有点奇怪撒,按理说是观察,分析某一data后才understand这样才说滴通阿,scrub data计算机上用滴较多呀,把data scrub掉了,对understand 有什么帮助么?

 

姐,数据清理主要是用于填充不完整数据,光滑数据,纠正不一致数据。

 

举个例子,偶办信用卡,如果银行要偶输入驾照号,偶没有,偶就不会填那一项。但是这样不能把偶的数据加入数据库,数据清理就可以在这一项填充“unknown” 或用其他方法。

 

再有,偶填办卡日期该用格式“mm/dd/yyyy",但是偶填的是“2008/12/08”,数据清理就是要对它处理

 

这方面偶也不太清楚,可能有些不准确的地方,姐,大概知道是这意思就好了

 

--skyRo

[ 本帖最后由 skyRo 于 2008-12-8 12:06 编辑 ]
作者: jjmm    时间: 2008-12-8 10:56

原帖由 北星束 于 2008-12-6 12:32 发表 又仔细听了下,可不可能是you've got to get down, and you scrub the data and understand what is going on...   但是现在看这句话有点奇怪撒,按理说是观察,分析某一data后才understand这样才说滴通阿,s ...

坚持really scrub...

是否可以理解成梳理数据? 反正肯定不是删除的意思.

 


作者: skyRo    时间: 2008-12-8 11:35

原帖由 jjmm 于 2008-12-8 10:56 发表 坚持really scrub... 是否可以理解成梳理数据? 反正肯定不是删除的意思.  

 

Data scrubbing is the process of fixing or eliminating individual pieces of data that are incorrect, incomplete or duplicated before the data is passed to a data warehouse or another application.

 

感觉rescrub data 好些

[ 本帖最后由 skyRo 于 2008-12-8 11:38 编辑 ]
作者: jjmm    时间: 2008-12-8 14:02

原帖由 skyRo 于 2008-12-8 11:35 发表   Data scrubbing is the process of fixing or eliminating individual pieces of data that are incorrect, incomplete or duplicated before the data is passed to a data warehouse or another applica ...

 

为啥是rescrub好? rescrub怎么理解?


作者: skyRo    时间: 2008-12-8 20:36

原帖由 jjmm 于 2008-12-8 14:02 发表   为啥是rescrub好? rescrub怎么理解?

 

重新清理数据啊。偶感觉那个音发的很弱,说不好是哪个,偶只有一条理由(但是不是太有力):它前后跟一个get down和understand,作为一个连续的思路,中间跟一个直接的动词偶觉得比较符合语言习惯。

 

偶想这种地方不管怎么写,不会在意思上产生很大偏差,怎么说都是可以的。


作者: 北星束    时间: 2008-12-8 21:22

原帖由 skyRo 于 2008-12-8 20:36 发表   重新清理数据啊。偶感觉那个音发的很弱,说不好是哪个,偶只有一条理由(但是不是太有力):它前后跟一个get down和understand,作为一个连续的思路,中间跟一个直接的动词偶觉得比较符合语言习惯。 &nbs ...

 

 

问题是scrub or rescrub data 跟 understand有什么关系? 没有什么帮助呀。。。  逻辑上是你研究了数据,分析了数据才有了understand呀。。。

话说光抬扛感觉还真不错,不当斑竹滴好处,hoho






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