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Living in the Backward World of the '60s


When Tia Smallwood was in college in the late 1960s, she was one of the few women pursuing an economics degree. Her daughter, Christine, brought her to StoryCorps in New York to talk about that time.


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StoryCorps is made possible through major funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. And most importantly, through the support of participants and listeners, like you. Welcome to the StoryCorps Podcast.

 

In this episode, we hear from Tia Smallwood. Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia Cozaiado. She was an economics major and often one of the only female students in her classes. Tia came to the StoryCorps to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

All the girls I went to high school with would talk about being teachers. And when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved, and that’s when I started taking finance and accounting courses. And this miserable old man, I had him for second year accounting and business law. He said to me, Ms Cozziado, you are the only woman that has ever gotten this far in my class, and I will make sure every day is a living hell for you. And he used to grade us on our class participation and how we would answer questions. And he said to me at the beginning of every class, I hope you’re prepared, Ms Cozziado, because the most difficult question of the period will be yours. And I would smile. I mean this is how backward the world was.

 

So then you graduated from Douglass and how many job interviews did you have to go on?

 

I think I wrote 80 letters, I don’t know how many jobs I applied to. And when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory; I owned one dress, it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that had short sleeves, and it was, I had a mini-dress. And I had tights and heels on and I walked in and this guy, he interviewed me for 15 minutes. And then he said, you need to stand up and turn around. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, stand up and turn around. And I stood up, and I leaned over his desk, and I said, I don’t need this job this much. And that’s when he said, you are hired. That’s the way it was. And I think it’s like that today, only it’s much more subtle.

 

That how hard it was then to work and take care of Steven, and then me later on?

 

I really had this idea that I could do everything 100 percent. You know, like you can be a 100 percent worker, a 100 percent mother, a 100 percent wife. And you can’t. It’s impossible. And you had these terrible decisions to make. Do you stay home? Do you work? Do you go after the brass ring in your career? What do you do with your children? You unconditionally love them, and you would give anything for them, you would give up your life, your career, your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.

 

Tia Smallwood with her daughter Christine, at StoryCorps in New York. Major support for StoryCorps is provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The StoryCorps archive is housed at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Our Podcast is supported by the Fetzer Institute as part of its campaign for Love and Forgiveness. Learn more at loveandforgiveness.org. You can catch StoryCorps on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s news and notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I’m Michael Garofalo, thanks for listening.


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Story Court is made possible through major funding from the Cooperation for Public Broadcasting, and most importantly through the support of participants and listeners like you.

 

Welcome to the story court pot cast. In this episode we hear from Tia Smallwood, Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia Cozaiado. She was an economic major and often one of the only female students in her classes. Tia came to the Story Court to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

All the girls I went to high school with would talk about being teachers. And when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved and that’s when I started taking finance and accounting courses. And there’s a miserable old man, I had him for second year accounting and business law. He said to me, Miss Cozziado, you are the only woman that has ever gone this far in my class, and I will make sure every day is a living hell for you. And he used to grade us on our class participation and how we would answer questions, and he said to me at the beginning of every class, I hope you are prepared Miss Cozziado because the most difficult question of the period will be yours . And I would smile. I mean this is how backward the world was.

 

So then you graduated from Douglas and how many job interviews did you have to go on?

 

I think I wrote 80 letters, I don’t know how many jobs I applied to. And when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory; I owned one dress, it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that has short sleeves, and it was, I have many dresses, I had tights and heels on and I walked in and this guy, he interviewed me for 15 minutes. And then he said, you need to stand up and turn around. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, stand up and turn around. And I stood up, and I leaned over his desk, and I said, I don’t need this job this much. And that’s when he said, you are hired. That’s the way it was. And I think it’s like that today, only it’s much more subtle.

 

How hard it was then to work and take care of Steven and me later on?

 

I really had this idea that I could do everything 100 percent. You know that you can be a 100 percent worker, 100 percent mother, 100 percent wife. And you can’t. It’s impossible. And you have these terrible decisions to make; do you stay home, do you work, do you go after the breads-winning in your career, what you do with your children… you unconditionally love them, and you would give anything for them, you would give up your life, your career, your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.

 

Tia Smallwood with her daughter Christine, at Story Court New York. Major support for Story Court is provided by Cooperation for Public Broadcasting. The Story Court Arcade is housed at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Or Pot Cast is supported by the Fetzer Institute as part of its campaign for love and forgiveness. Learn more at loveandorgive.org. You can catch Story Court on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s News and Notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I’m Michael Graflow, Thanks for listening

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Story corps is made possible through major funding from the corporation for public broadcasting and most importantly through the support of participants and listeners like you. Welcome to the story corps pod cast in this episode we hear from Tia Smallwood. Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia **. She was an economics major and often one of the only female students in the classes. Ta came to the story corps to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

Tia: “All the girls I went to high School with would talk about being teachers and when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved. That is when I start taking finance and accounting courses and there is a miserable old man I had him for second year of accounting and business law. He said to me “Ms ** you are the only women that has ever gone this far in my class and I will make sure everyday is a living hell for you.” And he used to grade us on our class participation and how you would answer questions and he said to me at the beginning of aerobic class” I hope you are prepared Ms ** because the most difficult question of the period will be yours and I would smile and this is how backward the world is.

 

Daughter” And so you graduated from Douglas and how any job interviews did you have to go on?

Tia: “I think I wrote eighty letters. I don’t know how many jobs I apply to and when I went in for the first interview. This is like a vivid memory. I owned one dress .it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that had short sleeves and it was. I have many dresses. I had tights and heels on  and I walked in and this guy he interviewed me for fifteen minutes and then he said you need to stand up and turn around and I said “what are you talking about?” he said” stand up and turn around.” And I stood up and I leaned over his first desk and I said “I don’t need this job this much” and that is when he says you are hired. That’s the way it was and I think it’s like that today it’s much more subtle.

 

Daughter:” How hard was it then to work and take care of Steven and then me later on.

 

Tia: “I really had this idea that I could do everything 100%. You know that you can be a 100% worker 100% mother 100% wife and you can’t. It’s impossible and you have theses terrible decisions to make Do you stay home? Do you work? do you go after the breast when you are in your career? What would you do with your children? You unconditionally love them and you would give everything for them. You would give up your life your career your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated. Tim Smallwood with her daughter Chrintine at story corps in New York. Major support for Story corps is provided by the corporation for public broadcasting. The story corps archive is housed at the American Folk life center at the library of Congress. Our pod casts are supported by the Fetzer institute as a part of its campaign for love and forgiveness learn more Love and forgive.org . You can catch story corps on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s News and Notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I am Michael Graflow Thanks for listening.  

 

                                     

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Homework Storycorp is made possible through major funding from the corperation for public broadcasting and most importantly, through the support of partispants and listeners like you. Welcome to the Storycorp podcast. In this episode we hear from Ts Smallwood. Ts attended / college in the late 1960s, back then her name was still Ts Katziato. She was economics major and often one of the only female students in her class. Ts came to Storycorp to tell her daughter Christine about that time. All the girls who went to school would talk about being teachers and when I went to college I started to save things I really love and that why I started taking finance and accounting courses and there was a miserable old man I handle for second year writing and business law. He said to me:” Mrs Katziato, you are the only woman that has ever gone this far in my class and I will make sure everyday is a living hell for you.” And he’s the greatest in our class participation and how we would answer questions and he said to me at the beginning of every class,” I hope you will prepare Ts Katziato because the most difficult question of the period will be yours.” And I would smile. This is how backward the work was. “ //and how many job interviews did you have to go on?” “I think I wrote 80 letters. I don’t know how many jobs I apply to and when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory. I was one dress with shades with red and pink and I walk in and this guy he interviewed me for 15 mimutes And then he said:”You need to stand up and turn around. ”And I said:”What are you talking about?” He said:”Stand up and turn around.” And I stood up and I linged over his desk and I said:” I don’t need this job this much.” And that was when he said you were hired. “That’s the way it was and I think like here today is only much more shuttle. How hard was it then to work and take care of Steven and me later on?” I really have this idea that I can do everything a hundred percent. You know you can be a hundred percent worker a hundred percent mother a hundred percent wife and you can’t. It’s impossible. And you have these terrible decision to make, do you work, do you go after the breath ring of your career, what’d you do with your children. You unconditionally love them and You could give anything for them, you would give up your life, you career, your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.
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  Storycorp is made possible through major founding from the corporation for public broadcasting, and most importantly, through the support of our participants and listeners, like you. Welcome to the Storycorp Podcast. In this episode, we hear from Tia Smallwood. Tia attended Douglas college at Record's University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia Caciado. She was an ecconomics major and often one of the only female students in her classes. Tia came to Storycorp to tell her daughter Christine about that time.
    "All the girls I went to high school with would talk about being teachers and when I went to college I started to see things I really loved. That's when I started taking finance and counting courses. And this miserable old man, I had him for second year in counting and business law, he said to me 'Miss Caciado, you are the only woman that has ever got this far in my class and I will make sure every day is a living hell for you.' And he used to greet us on our class participation at how we would answer questions. And he said to me at the beginning of every class 'I hope you prepared because the most difficult question of the period would be yours.' and I would smile. I mean this is how backward the world was."
    "You said then you graduated from Douglas, and how many job interviews did you have to go on?"
    "I think I wrote 80 letters. I don't know how many jobs I applied to. And when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory. I owned one dress. It was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares. It had short sleeves and it was * than many dresses and I had tights and heels on. And I walked in and this guy, he interviewed me for 15 minutes and then he said: 'You need to stand up and turn around'. And I said: 'What're you talking about?' He said: 'Stand up and turn around.' And I stood up and I leaned over his desk and I said :'I don't need this job this much.' And that's when he said :'You are hired.' "
    "That's the way it was. And I think it's like that today only it's much more * ."
    "How hard was it then to work and take care of Steven and then leave * * ."
    "I really had this idea that I could do everything a hundred percent. You know that you can be a hundred percent worker, a hundred percent mother, a hundred percent wife and you can't. It's impossible and you have these terrible decisions to make: Do you stay home? Do you work? Do you go after the brass ring in your career? Would it do with your children? You unconditionally love them and you would give anything for them: You would give up your life, your career, your home. It's complicated. It's complicated."
    Tia Smallwood with her daughter, Christine, at Storycorp, New York. Major support for Storycord's provided by the corporation for public broadcasting. The Storycorp * is housed at the American focal life center at the library of Congress. Our Podcast's supported by the * *, part of its compaign for love and forgiveness. Learn more at "forgive and love. org". You can catch Storycorp on the radio Tuesdays on NPR's news and notes and Fridays on NPR's morning additions. I'm Michael Grafflo. Thanks for listening.

 

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Story Court is made possible through major funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and most importantly through the support of participants and listeners like you.

 

Welcome to the story court part cast. In this episode we hear from Tia Smallwood, Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia Cozaiado. She was an economics major and often one of the only female students in her classes. Tia came to the Story Court to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

All the girls I went to high school with would talk about being teachers. And when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved and that’s when I started taking finance and accounting courses. And there’s a miserable old man, I had him for second year accounting and business law. He said to me, Miss Cozziado, you are the only woman that has ever gone this far in my class, and I will make sure every day is a living hell for you. And he used to grade us on our class participation and how we would answer questions, and he said to me at the beginning of every class, I hope you are prepared Miss Cozziado because the most difficult question of the period will be yours . And I would smile. I mean this is how backward the world was.

 

So then you graduated from Douglas and how many job interviews did you have to go on?

 

I think I wrote 80 letters, I don’t know how many jobs I applied to. And when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory; I owned one dress, it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that has short sleeves, and it was, I have many dresses, I had tights and heels on and I walked in and this guy, he interviewed me for 15 minutes. And then he said, you need to stand up and turn around. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, stand up and turn around. And I stood up, and I leaned over his desk, and I said, I don’t need this job this much. And that’s when he said, you are hired. That’s the way it was. And I think it’s like that today, only it’s much more subtle.

 

But how hard it was then to work and take care of Steve and me later on?

 

I really had this idea that I could do everything 100 percent. You know that you can be a 100 percent worker, 100 percent mother, 100 percent wife. And you can’t. It’s impossible. And you have these terrible decisions to make; do you stay home, do you work, do you go after the breads-winning in your career, what you do with your children… you unconditionally love them, and you would give anything for them, you would give up your life, your career, your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.

 

Tia Smallwood with her daughter Christine, at Story Court New York. Major support for Story Court is provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The Story Court Arcade is housed at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Our  Part Cast is supported by the Fetzer Institute as part of its campaign for love and forgiveness. Learn more at loveandorgive.org. You can catch Story Court on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s News and Notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I’m Michael Graflow, Thanks for listening

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Story Court is made possible through major funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and most importantly through the support of participants and listeners like you.

 

Welcome to the story court part cast. In this episode we hear from Tia Smallwood, Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia Cozaiado. She was an economics major and often one of the only female students in her classes. Tia came to the Story Court to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

All the girls I went to high school with would talk about being teachers. And when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved and that’s when I started taking finance and accounting courses. And there’s a miserable old man, I had him for second year accounting and business law. He said to me, Miss Cozziado, you are the only woman that has ever gone this far in my class, and I will make sure every day is a living hell for you. And he used to grade us on our class participation and how we would answer questions, and he said to me at the beginning of every class, I hope you / prepared Miss Cozziado because the most difficult question of the period will be yours . And I would smile. I mean this is how backward the world was.

 

So then you graduated from Douglas and how many job interviews did you have to go on?

 

I think I wrote 80 letters, I don’t know how many jobs I applied to. And when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory; I owned one dress, it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that has short sleeves, and it was, I have many dresses, so I had tights and heels on and I walked in and this guy, he interviewed me for 15 minutes. And then he said, you need to stand up and turn around. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, stand up and turn around. And I stood up, and I leaned over his desk, and I said, I don’t need this job this much. And that’s when he said, you are hired. That’s the way it was. And I think it’s like that today, only it’s much more subtle.

 

But how hard it was then to work and take care of Steven and me later on?

 

I really had this idea that I could do everything 100 percent. You know that you can be a 100 percent worker, 100 percent mother, 100 percent wife. And you can’t. It’s impossible. And you have these terrible decisions to make; do you stay home, do you work, do you go after the breads-winning in your career, what you do with your children… you unconditionally love them, and you would give anything for them, you would give up your life, your career, your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.

 

Tia Smallwood with her daughter Christine, at Story Court New York. Major support for Story Court is provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The Story Court archive is housed at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Our  Part Cast is supported by the Fetzer Institute as part of its campaign for love and forgiveness. Learn more at loveandorgive.org. You can catch Story Court on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s News and Notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I’m Michael Graflow, Thanks for listening

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Story corps is made possible through major funding from the corporation for public broadcasting and most importantly through the support of participants and listeners like you. Welcome to the story corps pod cast in this episode we hear from Tia Smallwood. Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia C.. She was an economics major and often one of the only female students in the classes. Ta came to the story corps to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

Tia: “All the girls I went to high School with would talk about being teachers and when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved. That is when I start taking finance and accounting courses and there is a miserable old man I had him for second year of accounting and business law. He said to me “Ms C. you are the only women that has ever gone this far in my class and I will make sure everyday is a living hell for you.” And he used to grade us on our class participation and how you would answer questions and he said to me at the beginning of aerobic class” I hope you are prepared Ms C. because the most difficult question of the period will be yours and I would smile and this is how backward the world was.

 

Daughter” And so you graduated from Douglas and how any job interviews did you have to go on?

 

Tia: “I think I wrote eighty letters. I don’t know how many jobs I apply to and when I went in for the first interview. This is like a vivid memory. I owned one dress .it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that had short sleeves and it was. I have many dresses. I had tights and heels on  and I walked in and this guy he interviewed me for fifteen minutes and then he said you need to stand up and turn around and I said “what are you talking about?” he said” stand up and turn around.” And I stood up and I leaned over his  desk and I said “I don’t need this job this much” and that is when he says you are hired. That’s the way it was and I think it’s like that today it’s much more subtle.

 

Daughter:” How hard was it then to work and take care of Steven and then me later on?

 

Tia: “I really had this idea that I could do everything 100%. You know that you can be a 100% worker 100% mother 100% wife and you can’t. It’s impossible and you have theses terrible decisions to make Do you stay home? Do you work? Do you go after the breast when you are in your career? What would you do with your children? You unconditionally love them and you would give anything for them. You would give up your life your career your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.

 

Tim Smallwood with her daughter Chrintine at story corps in New York. Major support for Story corps is provided by the corporation for public broadcasting. The story corps archive is housed at the American Folk life center at the library of Congress. Our pod casts are supported by the Fetzer institute as a part of its campaign for love and forgiveness learn more Love and forgive.org . You can catch story corps on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s News and Notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I'm Michael Graflow Thanks for listening.  

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StoryCorps is made possible through major funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. And most importantly, through the support of participants and listeners, like you. Welcome to the StoryCorps Podcast.

 

In this episode, we hear from Tia Smallwood. Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia Cozaiado. She was an economics major and often one of the only female students in her classes. Tia came to the StoryCorps to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

All the girls I went to high school with would talk about being teachers. And when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved, and that’s when I started taking finance and accounting courses. And this miserable old man, I had him for second year accounting and business law. He said to me, Ms Cozziado, you are the only woman that has ever gotten this far in my class, and I will make sure every day is a living hell for you. And he used to grade us on our class participation and how we would answer questions. And he said to me at the beginning of every class, I hope you’re prepared, Ms Cozziado, because the most difficult question of the period will be yours. And I would smile. I mean this is how backward the world was.

 

So then you graduated from Douglass and how many job interviews did you have to go on?

 

I think I wrote 80 letters, I don’t know how many jobs I applied to. And when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory; I owned one dress, it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that had short sleeves, and it was, I have a mini- dress/. And I had tights and heels on and I walked in and this guy, he interviewed me for 15 minutes. And then he said, you need to stand up and turn around. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, stand up and turn around. And I stood up, and I leaned over his desk, and I said, I don’t need this job this much. And that’s when he said, you are hired. That’s the way it was. And I think it’s like that today, only it’s much more subtle.

 

That how hard it was then to work and take care of Steven, and then me later on?

 

I really had this idea that I could do everything 100 percent. You know, like you can be / 100 percent worker, 100 percent mother, 100 percent wife. And you can’t. It’s impossible. And you had these terrible decisions to make. Do you stay home? Do you work? Do you go after the brass ring in your career? What do you do with your children? You unconditionally love them, and you would give anything for them, you would give up your life, your career, your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.

 

Tia Smallwood with her daughter Christine, at StoryCorps in New York. Major support for StoryCorps is provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The StoryCorps archive is housed at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Our Podcast is supported by the Fetzer Institute as part of its campaign for Love and Forgiveness. Learn more at loveandforgiveness.org. You can catch StoryCorps on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s news and notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I’m Michael Garofalo, thanks for listening.

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StoryCorps is made possible through major funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. And most importantly, through the support of participants and listeners, like you. Welcome to the StoryCorps Podcast.

 

In this episode, we hear from Tia Smallwood. Tia attended Douglas College at Records University in the late 1960s. Back then her name was still Tia Cozaiado. She was an economics major and often one of the only female students in her classes. Tia came to the StoryCorps to tell her daughter Christine about that time.

 

All the girls I went to high school with would talk about being teachers. And when I went to college, I started to study things I really loved, and that’s when I started taking finance and accounting courses. And this miserable old man, I had him for second year accounting and business law. He said to me, Ms Cozziado, you are the only woman that has ever gotten this far in my class, and I will make sure every day is a living hell for you. And he used to grade us on our class participation and how we would answer questions. And he said to me at the beginning of every class, I hope you’re prepared, Ms Cozziado, because the most difficult question of the period will be yours. And I would smile. I mean this is how backward the world was.

 

So then you graduated from Douglass and how many job interviews did you have to go on?

 

I think I wrote 80 letters, I don’t know how many jobs I applied to. And when I went in for the first interview, this is like a vivid memory; I owned one dress, it was shades of red and pink and these big block geometric squares that had short sleeves, and it was, it was a mini- dress. And I had tights and heels on and I walked in and this guy, he interviewed me for 15 minutes. And then he said, you need to stand up and turn around. And I said, what are you talking about? He said, stand up and turn around. And I stood up, and I leaned over his desk, and I said, I don’t need this job this much. And that’s when he said, you are hired. That’s the way it was. And I think it’s like that today, only it’s much more subtle.

 

/ How hard it was then to work and take care of Steven, and then me, later on?

 

I really had this idea that I could do everything 100 percent. You know, like you can be 100 percent worker, 100 percent mother, 100 percent wife. And you can’t. It’s impossible. And you had these terrible decisions to make. Do you stay home? Do you work? Do you go after the brass ring in your career? What do you do with your children? You unconditionally love them, and you would give anything for them, you would give up your life, your career, your home. It’s complicated. It’s complicated.

 

Tia Smallwood with her daughter Christine, at StoryCorps in New York. Major support for StoryCorps is provided by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. The StoryCorps archive is housed at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Our Podcast is supported by the Fetzer Institute as part of its campaign for Love and Forgiveness. Learn more at loveandforgiveness.org. You can catch StoryCorps on radio Tuesdays on NPR’s news and notes and Fridays on NPR’s morning edition. I’m Michael Garofalo, thanks for listening.

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