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I think many ordinary Catholics in the reign of Mary viewed burnings of Protestants with horror. Although catholic families may not like the prayer book in English, they may not like the fact that during the reign of Edward VI, their churches have been cleansed of the Catholic liturgical kits that they were so attached to, this does not mean the catholic families want to see their neighbors burned at the stake. And make no mistake about it, the burning of somebody at the stake is a very nasty business. It takes a long time to die. While you have mass burnings, while you have a number of Protestants being burned at the same time, the smell of human burning fat would have been overpowering.

The persecution is a duty, a religious duty, because in order to save the souls of her subjects, she has got to eradicate the virus of, of heresy. She is a fanatic.

While Mary's religious persecutions proved unpopular with her subjects, her marriage with Philip was a sham.

That he ever loved her in the conventional romantic sense, I think, is very doubtful, but he did always regard her as, as, as his
aunt, great tía amada




Mary was 11 years older than her husband. She failed to bear him a child, something she refused to accept.

We know that she has two phantom pregnancies. Exactly what causes them, we don't know. And one assumes there must be some balance between something physical, maybe some kind of tumor, who knows, and something psychological in the
plain meaning
  she is desperate to have a child and to continue the Tudor line and to continue her catholic religious settlement by having children of her own rather than things passing on to Elizabeth.

It's obvious to everybody except Mary herself that she's never gonna have a child. But a barren wife is no use to him at all.

In the end, Philip went back to Spain. He got a lot else to do than be in England, so he left the queen, nursing her delusions of pregnancy. And in the last year, her health was going. It became clear she was dying.

With her health failing, Mary was determined to exact merciless revenge on those who had wronged her in the past.

It's clear that the breakup of her parents' marriage was enormously important to her. And the key to that is seeing how relentlessly she pursued the man whom she blamed for that breakup--Thomas Cranmer, who became Archbishop of Canterbury precisely in order to break up her parents' marriage. Cranmer was a criminal in Mary's eyes. He'd committed a series of crimes: The first was to end her mother's marriage; the second was to be part of the break with Rome; the third was then to change the church to Protestantism; and the fourth was to support Lady Jane Grey.
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I think many ordinary Catholics in the reign of Mary viewed the burnings of protestants with horror. Although Catholic families may not like the prayer book in English , they may not like the fact during the reign of Edward VI. Their churches have been cleansed of the Catholic liturgical kit that they were so attached to, this does not mean the Catholic families want to see their neighbours burned at the stake, and make no mistake about it. The burning of somebody at the stake is a very nasty business, it takes a long time to die.  Where you have mass burnings, where you have a number of protestants being burnt at the same time, the smell of human burning fat would have been overpowering.

The persecution is a duty, a religious duty. Because in order to save the souls of her subject, she has got to eradicate the virus of all heresy. She is a fanatic.

While Mary's religious persecutions proved unpopular with her subjects. Her marriage with Philip was a sham.

That he ever loved her in the conventional romantic sense I think is very doubtful. But he did always regard her as his aunt, great tía amada (西班牙语dear aunt)

Mary was 11 years older than her husband. She failed to bear him a child, something she refused to accept.

We know that she has two phantom pregnancies.  Exactly what causes them we don't know, and one assumes there must be some balance between something physical, maybe some kind of tumor who knows, and something psychological in the p she's desperate to have a child and to continue the Tudor line and to continue her Catholic religious settlement by having children of her own rather than things  passing on to Elizabeth.

It's obvious to everybody except Mary herself that she's never going to have a child. But a barren wife is no use to him at all.

In the end, Philip went back to Spain, he got a lot else to do than be in England, so he left the queen, nursing her delusions of pregnancy.  And in the last year, her heath was going, it became clear she was dying.

With her health failing, Mary was determined to exact merciless revenge on those who had wronged her in the past.

It's clear that the breakup of her parents' marriage was enormously important to her. And the key to that is seeing how her relentlessly, she pursued the man whom she blamed for that breakup. Thomas Cranmer who became  archbishop of Canterbury precisely in order to break up her parents' marriage. Cranmer  was a criminal in Mary's eyes. He'd committed a series of crimes, the first was to end her mother's marriage, the second was to be part of the break with Rome, the third was then  to change the church to Protestantism, and the forth was to support Lady Jane Grey.
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I think many ordinary catholics in the regin of Mary viewed the burning of the protestants
with horror. although catholic families may not like the prayer book in english, they may
not like the fact that during the reign of Edward VI, their churches had been clensed --
all the catholic liturgical kit that they were so attached. it does not mean the catholic
families wanted to see their neighbours burned at the stake, and make no mistake about it,

the burnings of somebody at the stake is a very nasty business, it takes a long time to
die, while you have mass burnings, while you have a number of protestants being burned
at the same time, the smell of human burning fat would have been overpowering .

the persecution is a duty, a religious duty, because in order to save the souls of her
subjects, she has got to eradicate the virus of heresy, she is fanatic.

while Mary's religious pesecution proved unpopular with her subjects, her marriage with
phillip was a sham.

that he ever loved her in the conventional romantic sense, I think, is very doubtful,
but he did always regard her as his aunt, great tia amada.

Mary was 11 years old than his husband, she failed to bear him a child, something she
refused to accept.

we knows that she has two phantom pragnancies, exactly what causes them, we don't know,
and one asssumes there must be some balance between something physical, and may be some
kind of tumor, who knows whos, and something psychological in the planet she is desperate
to have a child and to continue the Tudor line and continue her catholic religious
settlement by having a child of her own rather than things passing on to Elizabeth.

it's obvious to everybody except Mary herself that she's never gonna have a child, but
a barren wife is no use for him at all.

in the end, Phillip went back to spain, he got a lot else to do,  than be in england,
he so left the queen, nursing her delusions of pregnancy, and in the last year, her health
was going, it became clear she was dying.

with her health failing, Mary was determined to exact merciless revenge on those who
had wronged her in the past.

it's clear that the breakup of her parent's marriage was enormous important to her.
and the key to that is seeing how relentlessly she pursued the man whom she blamed
for that breakup--Thomas Cranmer, who became archbishop of Canterbury precisely in
order to break up her parent's marriage. Cranmer was a criminal in Mary's eyes, he'd
committed a series of crimes, the first was to end her mother's marriage, the second
was to be part of the break with Rome, the third was then to change the church to
protestantism, and the forth was to support Lady Jane Grey.
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