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作者: qingchengshan    时间: 2013-6-30 07:55     标题: 2013-06-30&07-02 沃达丰欲77亿欧元收购德国Kabel

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Vodafone Lines Up £9bn Kabel Deutschland Deal   

As southern Europe struggles with telecoms growth, phone giant Vodafone makes a takeover move of Germany's biggest cable operator.

 

全球第二大移动网络运营商英国沃达丰公司宣布,将作价77亿欧元(约合101亿美元)现金收购德国最大有线电视运营商德国Kabel公司。这一收购显示了沃达丰实现欧洲业务增长的雄心。这是沃达丰2007年以来最大的并购案。


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作者: ml07797777    时间: 2013-6-30 17:53

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Mobile is extremely vulnerable; particularly you don’t have access to your own fixed lines. And this will give them a fixed line to carry about. 40pecent of the traffic will do in Germany.
So, if they get it right, they will be doing mobile phones, line-line phones, broad bands and TV.
The core group will plan. What the pleasant market found is that the German factor and the costumers are moving to other providers can be caused by as much as 60 percent if you move from one product to four products. That’s what it’s all about, mobile penetration; phone penetration is whatever one hundred percent develops the economy. It’s all about slowing that chain to preserve you revenues in cash.
Is that because consumers they, oh well, I may have the nerve or the appetite to change my phone provider. But can I really take the risk and change everything all at once?
Yeah, that’s absolutely right. That’s is precisely why mobile is so vulnerable because all of us we change our mobile phones far more often than we change our fixed lines. It doesn’t require if you want to drain the howling the warp and subtilize dish on our roof. All of these we just go to the shopper. And it just makes someone offer me an alternative package. So, photo phone without this type of deal, and similar deal is that it started in U.K. and New Zealand. It’s extremely vulnerable.
Right, so we can see what voter gets out. What about German consumers? German is rich in vibrant economy. Other consumer is ready for day lightness?
What they are it is a convenience factor. But of course, Kabel Deutsch isn’t agreeing to sell itself. Probably for the benefits of the German consumer. I mean there is a number of managements, not just very senior, but probably the top thirty. So it directed here we extremely well in sanitivized to sell its company at the right price. And it looks like a very attractive deal.
I pick my way through the press laser, not only are they well in scentivised to sell it, but under the terms of the days many will stay.
Well, that’s right.
So, they get the bonus and they keep their jobs.
Well, absolutely. The beautiful thing about the option package is that they are charged under it. It’s all depended on by how much outperform your peer group. And of course, after a pair of beat speculation which as you have mentioned liberty and above as well as photo phone, that outperformance in peer group is about as why he is goanna get. So this is the maximum number Michelle is probably goanna get. And they get them earlier they wouldn’t done. So it’s a win-win.
It’s three-lemon on the machine for them. What about the possibility of accountability. I did read that, but if you look at that share price tonight. Kabel share price is about 85 euros. That blows the offer price. So that would tell me that the market does not believe that accountability is coming.
It’s a smart move from bottle. It’s a defensive move cause they have to make it. But, they know the KPM and telephone Deutschland origin the background. They’d love to this. But they haven’t got the balanced sheet. And they know the liberty is tied up with the Verge media. And they are not really in the position to do another one to offer the old cash the older Vodafone can make available. So timing is precipitance about Vodafone. It’s a great time to get in and keep the competition in bay.
作者: 白衣人    时间: 2013-7-1 20:03

HW

Mobile is extremely vulnerable; particularly you don’t have the access to your own fixed lines. And this will give them a now fixed line to carry about 40% of the traffic we’ll do in Germany.

So, if they get it right, they will be doing mobile phones, line-line phones, broad bands and TV.

The quadruple plan. What the players in the market had found is that the tune factor or the costumers are moving to other providers can be cut by as much as 60% if you move from one product to four products. And that is what it’s all about, mobile penetration, phone penetration is whatever 100% to develop the economy. It’s all about slowing that tune to preserve you revenues in cash.

Is that because consumers said, oh well, I may have the nerve or the appetite to change my phone provider. But can I really take the risk and change everything all at once?

Yeah, that’s absolutely right. And that’s precisely why mobile is so vulnerable because all of us will change our mobile phone far more often than we change our fixed lines. It doesn’t require you, you won’t drill a hole in the wall, put a satellite  dish on our roof. All those we need is go to the shop and I just go to meet someone offer me an alternative package. So, photo phone without this type of deal, and similar deal is that it started in U.K. and New Zealand. It’s extremely vulnerable.

Right, so we can see what voter gets out. What about the German consumers? German is rich in vibrant economy. Are the consumers ready for a deal like this?

What they are, and it is a convenience factor. But of course, Kabel Deutsch isn’t agreeing to sell itself. Probably for the benefits of the German consumer. I mean there is a number of managements, not just the very senior, but probably the top 30 or so, the directors here were extremely well incentivized to sell its company at the right price. And it looks a very attractive deal.

I pick my way through the press release. Not only are they well incentivized to sell it, but under the terms of the deal many will stay.

Well, that’s right.

So, they get the bonus and they keep their jobs.

Well, absolutely. And the beautiful thing about the option package is they are charged under it. It’s all depends on by how much you would outperform your peer group. And of course, after a pair of beats speculation in which, as you mentioned, liberty had been involved as well as photo phone, that outperformance of the peer group is about as why he is all gonna get. So this is the maximum number, Michelle, they can probably get. How many they get them earlier, and they would have done. So it’s a win-win for them.

It’s three lemons on the machine for them. What about the possibility of a counter bid? I did read that, but if you look at that share price tonight, Kabel share price is about 85 euros. That’s below the offered price. So that would tell me that the market does not believe that a counter bid is coming.

This is a small move from both but it’s a defensive move that they have to make it. But, they know the KPM and Telephonica Deutschland are in the background. They’d love to this. But they haven’t got the balance sheet. And they know that liberty is tied up with the merging media Dior and they are not really in a position to do another one to offer the old cash, the offer that Vodafone can make available. So timing is precipitous about Vodafone. It’s a great time to get in and keep the competition at bay.
作者: catblue    时间: 2013-7-1 22:06

hw:
Mobile is extremely vulnerable, particularly if you don’t have access to your own fix lines, this will give them enough fix lines to carry about forty percent traffic they are doing in Germany.
So, if they get it right, they will be doing mobile phones, land line phones, broad bands and TV.
The quadruple plan, what the players in the market found, is that the turm factor or the customers moving to other providers can be cut as much as 60 percent if you move from one product to four products, that’s what is all about mobile penetration, phone penetration is well over a hundred percent in developed economies, it’s all about slowing the turm to preserve your revenues and cash.
is that because consumers say: well I may have the nerve and aptitude to change my phone provider, but can I really take the risk and change everything all at once?
Yes, that’s absolutely right, that’s precisely why mobile are so vulnerable because all of us, we change our mobile phone far more often than we change our fix line. It doesn’t require anyone to drill a hole in the wall, put a satellite dish upon our roof.  All those, we just go to the shop, got someone offer me an alternative package, so vodafone without this type of deal and similar deal still in the UK and New Zealand is extremely vulnerable.
Right, so we can see what vodafone gets out of it. What about the German consumers, Germany’s rich and vibrant economy, are the consumers ready for a deal like this?
They are, it is a convenient factor, but of course Kabel Dutch is not agreeing to sell itself, primarily for the benefits of Germany consumer, I mean there is number of management, not just the senior, but probably the top thirty or so directors, are extremely well incentivized to sell this company at the right price. And it looks a very attractive deal.
I have picked my way through the press release not only are they would incentivized to sell it, but under the terms of the deal, many will stay,
Well, that is right.
So. They get the bonus and they keep their jobs.
Well, absolutely and the beautiful thing about the option package they charged xx is all depends on by how much you out perform your peer group, and of course after a period of a bit speculation in which as you have mentioned liberty has been involved as well as Vodafone, that out performs of the peer group, is about as wide as you going to get. So this is the maximum number of shares you can probably get and they get it earlier than they would have done. So it’s a win-win…
It’s three lemons on the machine for them. What about the possibility of counter bid, I did read about it, but you look the share price tonight, kabel’s share price is about 85 Euros. That’s below the offer price, so that will tell me the market doesn’t believe a counter bid is coming.
This is smart move from Vodafone, it’s a defensive move, because they have to make it, but they know xxx and telephon—dutch are in the background they love to do this, but they haven’t got the balance sheet, they know that liberty is tight up with the xxx media deal, and they are not really in a position to do another one to offer the old cash deal, that Vodafone can make available, so timing is precipitance for vodafone, this is a great time to get in and keep the competition at bay.
作者: polartag    时间: 2013-7-2 13:07

Homework:


Mobile is extremely vulnerable, particularly if you don’t have access to your own fixed lines. And this will give them enough fixed lines to carry about 40% of the traffic they’re doing in Germany,

So if they get it right, they’ll be doing mobile phones, landline phones, broadband and TV.

The quadruple plan, what the players in the market have found is that the churn factor, or the customers’ moving to other providers can be cut by as much as 60% if you move from 1 product to four products, and that’s what it’s all about, mobile penetration, phone penetration is well over 100% in developed economies, it’s all about slowing that churn to preserve your revenues and cash flow.

Is that because consumers they are well, I may have the nerve and appetite to change my phone provider, but can I really take the risk and change everything all at once?

Yes, that’s absolutely right and that’s precisely why mobile is so vulnerable. Because all of us, we change our mobile phone far more often than we change our fixed line. It doesn’t require anyone to drill a hole in the wall, or put up a satellite dish up on our roof, all those, we just go to the shop and I could just meet someone who’s offering me an alternative package, so Vodfone without this type of deal and similar deals that it’s done in the UK and New Zealand is extremely vulnerable.

Right, so we can see what Voda gets out of it, what about German consumers, Germany’s rich and vibrant economy, are the consumers ready for a deal like this?

Well, they are, I mean it is a convenience factor, but of course you know, Kabel Deutschland is not agreeing to sell itself primarily for the benefit of the German consumer. I mean there’s a number of management, not just the very senior, but probably the top 30 or so directors are in extremely well incentivized to sell this company at the right price. And it looks a very attractive deal.

I picked my way through the press release, not only are they well incentivized to sell it, but under the terms of the deal, many will stay.

Well, that’s right,

So they get the bonus, and they keep their jobs.

Well, absolutely and the beautiful thing about the opposition package is their charge under it is it all depends on how much you’ve outperformed your peer group. And of course after a period of beat speculation in which as you mentioned liberty had been involved as well as Vodfone, that outperformance of the peer group is about as wide as they’re gonna get, so this is the maximum numbers of share they can probably get, and they get them earlier than they would have done, so it’s a win-win plan.

It’s definitely lemons on the machine for them, what about the possibility of a counter bid, I did read that, but if you look at the share price tonight, Kabel share price is about Euro85, that’s below the offer price, so that would tell me that the market doesn’t believe a counter offer is coming.

This is smart move from vodfone, I mean, it’s a defensive move, because they have to make it, but they know that KPN and telephone like the Deutschland are in the background, they’d like to do this, but they haven’t got the balance sheet, and they know that Liberty is tied up with the virgin media deal, and they’re not really in the position to do another one, to offer the all-cash deal that Vodfone can make available, so timing is precipitous for Vodfone, this is a great time to get in and keep the competition at bay.
作者: rebe207    时间: 2013-7-3 10:17

HW

Mobile is extremely vulnerable, particularly if you don’t have access to your own fixed lines, and this will give them enough fixed lines to carry about 40% of the traffic they do in Germany.

So, if I get it right, they will be doing mobile phones, landline phones, broadband and TV.

The quadruple plan. What the players in the market have found is that the chain factor, or the customers are moving to other providers can be cut by as much as 60% if you move from one product to four products. That’s what it’s all about. Mobile penetration, phone penetration is whatever 100% in developed economies, is all about slowing that chain to preserve your revenue and cash file.

Is that because consumers say “well, I may have the nerve and the appetite to change my phone provider, but can I really take the risk and change everything all at once”?

Yes, that’s absolutely right. That’s precisely why a mobile is so vulnerable, because all of us, we change our mobile phone far more often than we change our fixed lines. It doesn’t require anyone to drill a hole in the wall, put a satellite dish up on our roof. All we do, we just go to the shop and … someone offer me an alternative package. Vodafone without this type of deal and similar deals that it’s done in the UK and New Zealand is extremely vulnerable.

Right, so we can see what Voda gets out. What about German consumers? Germany is rich and vibrant economy. Are the consumers ready for a day like this?

Well, they are. I mean it is a convenient factor. But of course, in Kabel is not agreeing to sell itself primarily for the benefit of German consumer. I mean there is a number of management, not just the very senior, but probably the top third tier/thirty or so directors extremely well incentivized to sell this company at the right price. And it looks a very attractive deal.

I pick my way through the press release. Not only are they well incentivized to sell it, but under the terms of the deal, many will stay.

Well, that’s right.

So they get the bonus, and they keep their jobs.

Well, absolutely. And a beautiful thing about the option package they are charged under is all depends on by how much you outperform your peer group. And of course after a period of bit speculation, and in which as you mention Liberty’s been involved as well as Vodafone, that outperformance over peer group is about why it’s ever gonna get. This is the maximum number of shares they probably get and they get them earlier they would have done. So it’s a win-win plan.
It’s three lemons on the machine for them. What about the possibility of the account bill. I did read that. If you look at the share price tonight, Kabel share price is about 85 Euros, that’s below the offer price. So that would tell me that the market doesn’t believe an account bill is coming.
This is smart move for Vodafone. It’s a defensive move because they have to make it, but they know the KPN and telephone in Deutschland are in the background they’d love to do, but they haven’t got the balance sheet, and they know Liberty is tied up with the virgin media deal. And they are not really in a position to do another one to offer the all cash deal that Vodafone can make it available. So timing is pre-exhibitors for Vodafone. It’s a great time to get in and keep the competition at bay.
作者: ESQUIRE    时间: 2013-7-3 23:01     标题: [Homework]2013-06-30&07-02 沃达丰欲77亿欧元收购德国Kabel

本帖最后由 ESQUIRE 于 2013-7-3 23:28 编辑

A: Mobile is extremely vulnerable; particularly you don't have access to your own fixed lines and this will give them a fixed line to carry about 40 percent of traffic they do in Germany.B: So they get it right, they will be doing mobile phones, line-line phones,broad bands and tv.
A: The quadruple  plan,  what the players in the market found is that the churn factor, or the customers moving to other providers can be cut by as much as 60 percent if you move from one product to 4 products. That is what is all about mobile penetration, phone penetration is whatever 100 percent in developed economies. It's all about slowing that churn to preserve your revenue in cash...
B: Is that because consumers say oh, well i may have the nerve and appetite to change my phone provider but  can i really take the risk and change everything all at once?
A: yes that's absolutely right and that's precisely why mobile is so vulnerable because all of us..we change our mobile far more often than we change our fixed line. It doesn't require anyone to drill hole in a wall, put satellite dish upon on our roof, all those,we just go to the shop and is good to me that someone offers me an alternative package. Vodafone, without this type of deal, and similar deals that are in the UK and New Zealand, is extremely vulnerable.
B: Right. So we can see what Vodafone gets itself.  What about German consumers? Germany is rich and vibrant economy. Are the consumers are ready for a deal like this?
A: Well, they are. It is a convenient factor, but of course Kabel Deutschland  is not agreeing  to sell itself primarily for the benefit of German consumers. i mean, there is a number of management not just very senior but probably the top 30 or so. Directors  are extremely well  incentivized to sell this company at the right price. And it looks very attractive...
B: I picked my way through the press releaser, not only are they well incentivized to sell it but under the terms of the deal many will stay.
A: Well, that is right..
B: so they get bonus and they keep their jobs...
A: Well, absolutely. The beautiful thing about the option package  they charge under it all depends on by how much you outperform your peer group and of course after a period of bits speculation which as you mentioned liberty has  been involved as well as Vodafone. That out-performance of peer group is about as wide as they're gonna get, so that's the maximum number of shares they can probably get. Had they got it earlier, they wouldn't have done, so  It's win-win ...
B: It's three lemons on the machine for them. What about the possibility of a counter-bid? I did read that but if you look at share price tonight, Kabel share price is about 85 euros. That's below the offer price so, that will tell me that the market doesn't believe the counter-bid is coming.
A: this is smart move for Vodafone and it is defensive move because they have to make it but they know KPN and Telephone of Deutschland are in background they love to do this but they haven't got balance sheet. I may know the Liberty is tied up with the Virgin media deal and they are not really in a position to do anther one to offer the all cash deal that Vodafone can make available, so timing is precipitous for Vodafone. It is great time to get in and to keep the competition at a bay
作者: xingxingcamille    时间: 2013-7-9 11:12

HOMEWORK

Mobile is extremely vulnerable, particularly if you don’t have access of your own fixed lines. And this will give them enough fixed lines to carry about 40% of the traffic they’ll do in Germany.

So if they get it right, they will be doing mobile phones, landline phones, broad bands and TV.

The quadruple plan. What they want the players in the market found is that the churn factor or the customer’s moving to other providers can be cut by as much as 60% if you move from one product to four products. And that’s what it’s all about. Mobile penetration, phone penetration is whatever 100% in developed economies. It’s all about slowing that churn to preserve your revenues and cash flow.

Is that because consumers think oh well, I may have the nerve and appetite to change my phone provider, but can I really take the risk and change everything all at once?

Yes, that’s absolutely right, and that’s precisely why mobile is so vulnerable, because all of us, we change our mobile phone far more often than we change our fixed lines. It doesn’t require everyone to drill a hole in the wall, put a satellite dish up on our roof, all these. We just go to the shop and I could just meet someone who’s offering me an alternative package. So Vodafone, without this type of deal and similar deals that it’s done in the UK and New Zealand is extremely vulnerable.

Right. So we can see what Voda gets out of it. What about the German consumers? Germany’s rich and vibrant economy? Are the consumers ready for a deal like this?

Well, they are. It is a convenience factor. But of course you know, Kabel Deutschland is not agreeing to sell itself primarily for the benefit of the German consumer. I mean there is a number of management, not just the very senior, but probably the top 30 or so directors are extremely well incentivized to sell this company at the right price. And it looks a very attractive deal.

I picked my way through the press release. Not only are they well incentivized to sell it, but under the terms of the deal, many will stay.

Well, that’s right.

So they get the bonus and they keep their jobs.

Well, absolutely. And a beautiful thing about the option package they are charged in is it all depends on by how much you’ve outperformed your peer group. And of course, after a period of beat speculation in which as you mentioned, liberty has been involved as well as Vodafone. That outperformance of the peer group is about as wide as it’s what they’re gonna get. So this is the maximum number of shares they can probably get and they get them earlier than they would have done. So it’s a win-win for them.

It’s free lemons on the machine for them. What about the possibility of a counter bid? I did read that. But if you look at the share price tonight, Kabel share price is about 85 euros. That’s below the offer price. So that would tell me that the market doesn’t believe a counter bid is coming.

This is a smart move from Vodafone. It’s a defensive move because they have to make it. But they know the KPN and Telephone Deutschland are in the background. They’d love to do this, but they haven’t got the balance sheet, and they know that liberty is tied up with the virgin media deal and they are not really in a position to do another one to offer the all-cash deal that Vodafone can make available. So timing is precipitous for Vodafone. This is a great time to get in and keep the competition at bay.
作者: 似从风来    时间: 2014-3-8 10:27     标题: [Homework]【整理】2013-06-30&07-02 沃达丰欲77亿欧元收购德国Kabel

mobile is extremely vulnerable ,particularly if you don't have access to Europe fixed lines,and this will give their another fixed lines to carry about,40% of the traffic will doing in Germany,so you get it right,you will be doing mobile phones and lapphones and board bands TVs,the quadruple plan,what place in the market found,is that the change fact or the customer 's moving to other providers can be cut by as much  60% if you move from one product to four product.that is all about mobile permeation,phone permeation is one over 100% development economy since  all about slowing that change to preserve your revenue in cash.
Is that because consumer Well,I may have nerve appetite to change my phone provider can not really takes the risk and change everything all at once.
Yes,it does absolutely right,and that's precisely why mobile is so vulnerable because all of us we change our mobile phones far more often than we change the fix line doesn't require anyone to join the wholely satelliate to package so without this type of deal ,and similar deals in UK and Newland  is extremely vulnerable.
right  so we can see what the voter against about this.what about the Germany  consumer economy are the consumers ready right for this ?as they are.it is convenience fact but of course  for the benefits of the Germany consumers.A number of the management not just very senior but probably top 30 to sell this extremely well sensitive  to sell this company at right price and it looks  a very attractive deal
I pick that through this very not very insentive to sell it ,but at the  terms of deal,many will stay.
that's right.
they got the bonus and they keep their jobs.
Well,absolutely and the beautiful things about this option package at their charge it all depends on how much your outperform your peer group ,and of course after peer of bits speculation which as your mention that libility has involved into helps performance peer group so that is the maxianm number share they can probably get they wouldn't done so its win-win
what about the possibility of accountabiltiy but if you look at the share price tonight,carbon share price is 18.5 that's below the iphone price so that would tell me the market doesn't believe the accountability is coming .
this is a smart move from the it's a defensive move they have to make it  because but they know KPM and the telephone and winning the background and they love to do but they have to get the balance sheet.they know the libility is timeout with the emerging medium and they are not really in a position to do another one offer the old cash can make available so timing is prsitious  this is a great time to get in.keep the competition in bale.


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