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[文化博览] 【整理】2011-01-31 奥普拉秀:走进白宫的圣诞节 Christmas Oprah—11

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And I think Michelle is absolutely right that the course of the campaign or the struggles that we went to make sure we are balancing our kids’ needs, Michelle’s needs with the demands of the campaign. All that I think we’ve informed are commitment to each other in a really powerful way.

When the outside look in, this is like a marriage to be envied. The way you look her, the way she looks you.

He still checks me out.

Yes, yeah, I can see that. And your date nights and or that is it a marriage to be envied.

I think we have a wonderful marriage. I love my husband and he is my best friend. But I always like to talk honestly about it because I thought about other young couples who say there are no struggles to get there and there are. That’s part of it, you know, the message is walk to the struggles, start out with somebody that you respect and that you trust so that when you hit the bombs that inevitable, you always have that foundation. I love I tell Barak is as mad as he can make me, I still look at him and say: I really like you. You know, I like you, I like the way you think, I like the person you are. It’s hard to strive too far or stay mad too long with the person with somebody you like.

But isn’t it also true that every marriage has its balance to power or relationship and how do you balance to power when your husband is the most powerful person in the world.

You just get to be. Really confident. You have to think you are always right.

I am usually right. Yeah, I am.

She is not lacking for confidence in her opinions and it is more than happy to argue them with vigor. I think either one of us would have problems with somebody who wasn’t as strong because sometimes we can be a little of overwhelming and forceful. And so I think it caused a lot of friction early in our marriage because we are born with heads that neither side will back down. And I think what we come to be able to do is know other person enough and trust other person enough that very quickly we can get no place where we remember that this is not a competition, this is a collaboration.
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